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Old  10-14-07, 04:17 AM   #16
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I am just waiting for the same ole lies to start over again!!! You claim that you don't tell lies, but when you post lies which come from other people's books of lies and the Media's lies.....they are still LIES and you WILL give an account for your help in promoting them I assure you.
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Old  10-14-07, 06:33 AM   #17
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Lies by who's definition?

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I am just waiting for the same ole lies to start over again!!! You claim that you don't tell lies, but when you post lies which come from other people's books of lies and the Media's lies.....they are still LIES and you WILL give an account for your help in promoting them I assure you.

And a happy good Sunday morning to you too.

Lies ... by who's definition? Your own or God's definition in the Bible?

How can a person lie under such circumstances when they have no knowledge the information presented is in any way untruthful? As far as myself and others repeating information that has already been written, published, etc. all we've done is completely unknowingly referenced information that it turns out to be is perhaps untruthful. That to me means the lie has already been lied. We can hardly be held accountable for someone else's mistakes.
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Old  10-14-07, 10:23 AM   #18
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Looking for an excuse to restart posting your lies again????

I still say you will have to give an account for posting and promoting other peoples lies, God's Holy Word says he HATES lies.
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Old  10-14-07, 11:20 AM   #19
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Could we all agree that we will all give account of our deeds? Or is that too hard also. Why don't you two meet somewhere and work this thing out. There are others of us who are trying to have some fun here. Or do you not like fun either?
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Old  10-14-07, 12:32 PM   #20
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If YOU know where to find it...why don't you go stand in front of a mirror and stick your finger up your nose, and see how cute it would make you!!!!!!
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Old  10-14-07, 04:04 PM   #21
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I'm passed the age of trying to be cute. I'm hoping soon that I will be passed the age that pests like you will bother me. In fact, I think I just matured. You don't bother me anymore. So please just step behind me. In fact I say directly to you GET BEHIND ME. You have no place in my life. I refuse going forward to read your thoughts that come from a self centered mind. I also challenge other Christians to not respond to your posts. Folks if you turn off the spotlight it will go away.
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Old  10-14-07, 08:38 PM   #22
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How well YOU SHOULD KNOW!!!!!!!!
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Old  10-14-07, 11:58 PM   #23
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I'm passed the age of trying to be cute. I'm hoping soon that I will be passed the age that pests like you will bother me. In fact, I think I just matured. You don't bother me anymore. So please just step behind me. In fact I say directly to you GET BEHIND ME. You have no place in my life. I refuse going forward to read your thoughts that come from a self centered mind. I also challenge other Christians to not respond to your posts. Folks if you turn off the spotlight it will go away.

Well said, brother. At least I don't intend to continue responding to Lady Star. However, I think you will agree that she's more than once accused me of lying and I had every right to defend myself. Enough said about that.

An update about our Heritage USA group on Yahoo.com. There may be some changes coming. Stay tuned for further details, or better yet, check us out on the Yahoo Groups function. Simply type in Heritage USA in the search box and it will bring you right to our group.

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Looking for an excuse to restart posting your lies again????

The answer is no. Just like on the TV commercial ... "The Answer is Always NO!"

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I still say you will have to give an account for posting and promoting other peoples lies, God's Holy Word says he HATES lies.

You won't get any argument from me about that. God most definitely hates lies. But what about God's love and forgiveness? You always seem to be accusing others of lying, etc. and having that kind of a judgmental spirit is just as bad, my sister.

I'm sure you already know this, but it is not for us to judge anyone. We are to reach out to people in genuine Christian love and concern. It's most definitely not our business to be tearing down people and then hide behind the Bible as our defense for doing it.

Words to think about...

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Old  10-15-07, 09:45 AM   #24
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When something DECEPTIVE is espoused or thrown out to the public and it is a LIE as black as HELL it's self, regardless of who is putting it out....to call it a " LIE " is not being " Judgemental " and....for you or anyone to use that to HIDE behind in order to continue posting stuff, is absolutely sinful and reveals to everyone just how much dependency can be placed in anything YOU say or ( REPEAT ).

Just rest assured that when/if you 3 or 4 people continue to post things which are happening here on these grounds and it is not true.....I will be here to tell the truth about it to the people, just as I was in the beginning when thousand or mabe more residential homes and SUBDIVISIONS were springing up like dandelions, and here is one lying Dude, who has never ever set foot on the place and.....lives in another State, espousing stuff he cannot possible know is true, another Dude who lives in another State also chiming in with misinformation pertaining to what IS happening on the Property here.

Folks rest assured I HAVE, I WILL continue to post the TRUTH something which is not always easy to find on other Group Sites.

Blessings to All Who Love and are Interested in TRUTH.
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Old  10-15-07, 10:01 AM   #25
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There you go calling me a liar again. Now, for the umpteenth time ... if I were to repeat something that I had full knowledge of that wasn't true, then yes, I would be spreading a lie, misinformation or whatever.

You said it yourself. In that I live thousands of miles away in another state, I can only rely on what others have said and hope what they're saying is true.

For your information, I have taken great pains to become as knowledgeable about this topic as I can; in order that I can at least be conversant about the subject.

Therefore, I do not believe I have lied or been the least bit untruthful about anything we've been discussing here.

As a born again Christian - a blood bought Child of God - I know full well that I must not spread such things as gossip, lies, etc. For I will be held to account for such things.

I think this brings us back to square one. You seem to have appointed yourself to be the truth police when it comes to these subjects. You just go right ahead on and be judgmental to others and call them liars. You go right ahead. I can assure you dear sister that you will have your own accounting to do when you appear before the Lord in Heaven.

However, I can not and will not stoop to your level. I consider you to be a sister in Christ and therefore, I choose to forgive you in Jesus name.

God's blessings to you and all,

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Old  10-15-07, 09:04 PM   #26
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No, I have not " appointed " myself as " TRUTH POLICE " sounds like you would be opposed to any kind of TRUTH and would call it being " Judgemental " If you claim that some of the MISINFORMATION which you personally have posted, on this here Group Site has not been lies....( which you had to later come back and admit that it was not true, was that JB married Billy Graham's Daughter.


That's what happens when you go leaping ahead with Electronic News Media and Books and Printed lies in the Press, but here you go....just can't wait you have to be the FIRST to get it out there whether it's the truth or a lie matters not to you does it?????

Why you would be so pocessed and want to be a purveyor of so much MISFORMATION and LIES I fail to understand, If you don't know something is a TRUE FACT then you really and truly have no buisness posting it as being FACT.

You and 4 or 5 Guys came on like GANGBUSTERS in the beginning here trying to horn'swoggle the people into believing that.....Heritage USA/PTL was being " Restored " and NOW of coruse people can come and see for themselves, It is clearly different groups who are trying to get their own individual type Ministries on small peices of the Property Organized, The MAJOR, MAJOR part of the place has been turned into Residential property with Housing development STILL being developed, even businesss are Springing up here and there, and to espouse such FALSE Information that " Heritage USA is being restored " GIVE ME AND THOUSANDS OF OTHERS A BREAK PLEASE!!!
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Old  10-15-07, 09:41 PM   #27
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Can we just let this whole thing drop? You've made your points. Abundantly clear, I might add.

Yes, I did make the mistake in assuming that Lori Bakker was somehow related to Billy Graham and the now-late Ruth Bell Graham. It was quickly pointed out to me that Lori is no relation to the Billy Graham family. I immediately apologized for that glaring error. But it's an error that I think anyone could have made. I didn't do it deliberately.

Again, can we just drop this whole matter? I certainly want to move past this stuff, but it is you who won't get past the accusations and finger-pointing. Not only of me but several others as well.

Thank you and God bless.

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Old  10-16-07, 10:47 AM   #28
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YES we can, IF you and the other 3 or 4 people will only stop being DECEPTIVE and trying to make Readers think " HERITAGE USA " is being " RESTORED " Granted.....a few buildings are being worked on, a few being torn down, a few still ready to FALL down HOWEVER.....Heritage USA was NOT JUST the Buildings believe me! " Heritage USA " was...Marriages SAVED, Babies SAVED, Souls SAVED and filled with the HOLY SPIRIT, People meeting and making NEW Friends, Seminaries of various kinds, Campmeetings, Allnight Gospel Hymn Singings, Missions supported, Struggling Churches helped, So......" Heritage USA " was NOT just Buildings.

Therefore to the Previous Post I say......I am just as tired as you in going back and forth, all it will take for it to stop, is for the obvious effort in DECEPTION to cease!!!! However...I will be here to tell the TRUTH.

OVER AND OUT!

Blessings to everyone.
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Old  10-16-07, 08:51 PM   #29
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YES we can, IF you and the other 3 or 4 people will only stop being DECEPTIVE and trying to make Readers think " HERITAGE USA " is being " RESTORED " Granted.....a few buildings are being worked on, a few being torn down, a few still ready to FALL down HOWEVER.....Heritage USA was NOT JUST the Buildings believe me! " Heritage USA " was...Marriages SAVED, Babies SAVED, Souls SAVED and filled with the HOLY SPIRIT, People meeting and making NEW Friends, Seminars of various kinds, Campmeetings, Allnight Gospel Hymn Singings, Missions supported, Struggling Churches helped, So......" Heritage USA " was NOT just Buildings.

Therefore to the Previous Post I say......I am just as tired as you in going back and forth, all it will take for it to stop, is for the obvious effort in DECEPTION to cease!!!! However...I will be here to tell the TRUTH.

OVER AND OUT!

Blessings to everyone.

PTL and Heritage USA were all that you have said and more. I will certainly do my part and all we can do is hope and pray the others will do the same.

God's blessings to all,

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Old  10-20-07, 03:26 PM   #30
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HEADS UP,

I just wonder how many of you PRECIOUS PEOPLE who read this and the OTHER Group Web Site, enjoyes the one poster who It appears, quite literally, gets his " JOLLY ROCKS OFF " by making posts in which he mentions the same alleged incident over and over and over and over throughout both Sites, using the same DEROGATORY PHRASE that the Media uses to describe it, maybe he should look up the " T WORD " There was no Prearranged agreement " which is part of the definition of the " T WORD " anyway....I just wonder if some of you get tired of reading his " REPETITIOUS " Slandering.

It's only News once from the same person!!!!!!!

As far as the mention of " The Beloved " being used to describe feelings about the " UPPER ROOM " and the poster saying that he feels " LADY STAR " probable would agree with that description, Folks if only He himself had been in that UPPER ROOM one fourth as many times as this LADY STAR has, I guarantee you, he would not have the desire to continue posting the DEROGATORY Media slander which should be ( and I feel is ) buried in the sea of God's forgetfulness but, just like an ole dog that burys a bone and keeps going back and digging it up ( rotten as it might be ) he keeps on gnawing on it just as if tho it's the first time around with it, and to me that's NOT showing that he knows what the word RESPECT even means, to keep the subject out before the Public is just one of SATANS NASTY WEAPONS or TOOLS.

CHRIST-LIKE???? HARDLY!!!!

What in the world that poster thinks he is actually accomplishing by continually using it in his posts from time to time is beyond me,

WHY NOT JUST STOP IT???

Sincerely;

ME

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