[FormerPTLer]

Like anyone here believes you are about to ID yourself. But thanks for giving me the credit for you to continue to hide. I'll take all the credit for stuff like that I can take. EXACTLY who are you trying to scare with your STUDIO and TAPES. Since I have such POOR comprehension skills please tell me. Just like I can't figure out who you are I can't figure out WHO you are talking about with the TAPES. You are correct if I had your ID I would post it here. That's for sure. I would love to be the one to show what a phoney you are. However, one of the "INSIDERS" who "CLAIMS" to know your ID will not give it up either. Not sure why ANYONE would defend your honor. I know you must just love him for it. By the way, I think most folks here have already seen those tapes. Got anything new????? I didn't think so!!! Most make you feel real powerful to hold old news over some heads. I would if I were you to be prepared to prove beyond reasonable doubt that any of the parties on those tapes made any statements that can't be proved. JB as I'm sure you are aware has more attorneys than viewers. As far as Robin goes, we go all the way back to Lamb's Chapel.

[Lady Star]

Gary;

Keep digging and digging the hole keeps getting bigger and bigger, pretty soon you will be able to pull the ground in over yourself!!

[FormerPTLer]

You must love watching your boy in the video suite. Does it remind you of when you were younger or do you just enjoy seeing other peoples misery. I can't figure out which. Do you get private screenings or do other people sit and watch and remember with you. Popcorn, peanuts, past sins? You are one cool person. I'm glad in my small way to be associated with you. ROLL TAPE!

[FormerPTLer]

Like I have stated before, I get it from both sides when I jump in with the truth. I must take Rick's good advice and stop pointing out errors when I see them. In the words of one famous actor, "I'll be back!"

[Lady Star]

Gary;

Careful Sweetie, don't drop those Chicken and Dumplings on your clothes they will make a big stain ( SMILE NOW.)

I honestly think you have forgotton what the subject was at the time you threw YOUR " Chicken into the fight" you just went sailing off into the wild blue younder and NOW you have even drug Robin into YOUR part of the conversation, I'm not too sure he would appreciate that! ( Robin is a great guy as far as I know.)

The " INSIDERS ARE BOTH GREAT GUYS ALSO " and always HAVE been good teases they just get a little ticked every now and then, when anyone gets a leg up on them, You just need to bug out and don't be trying to do THEM any favors, you just aren't good at it.

You Simply Need to Stop trying to have your EGG sunny side up, You Continue to end up with it all over your face!!

[Lady Star]

For some reason MY screen has become a little blurred.......
mabe the CHICKEN got something on it.

Did you say you were going to the BAR or Barn?

[Rick4404]

No, Lady Star. I do not know who you are. You must remember that I never once was able to set foot onto the Heritage USA property. I had always wanted to come down there for a visit, but the opportunity never arose.

You say I should know your identity by now. In all honesty, I just can't place you. Earlier on I recall that you said, either in this blog or was it over on the Yahoo group, that one or both of your parents worked for PTL at Heritage USA at one time? Did you also say that you worked there for one Summer during your high school years as a tour guide on one of the trams?

I guess I will just have to wait with great anticipation along with the rest of the folks in this group until such time as you feel comfortable about revealing who you are.

God bless,
Rick

[FormerPTLer]

I'm sure Ladystar will say I made this up but as you can see I had nothing to do with it. Sounds like things are happening in HIM land.
Updated: 06/12/05

Plans key to linking Fort Mill, Pineville
New roads important part of development

Andy Burriss • The Herald
Demolition of the old Heritage USA waterpark was under way Thursday. Fort Mill developer Earl Coulston is beginning to remove and renovate many of the landmarks that once symbolized the Christian resort to make way for a new development.

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By Sula Pettibon The Herald
FORT MILL -- A developer's plans for restoring the old Heritage USA property include a new road that will give York County residents a quick route through Regent Park to Pineville, N.C.
Grading is underway for an extension of Regent Parkway that will cut through the former complex created by Jim and Tammy Bakker to Dorman Road in Mecklenburg County, N.C. Construction is expected to be finished in a year.

The two-lane, approximately one-mile road will provide a back-door route to Carolina Place Mall, said Earl Coulston of Coulston Enterprises of Fort Mill, who is developing almost 1,000 acres in three counties.

"The road is the key to the whole property here because of the location," said Coulston. "We become part of Charlotte. It's great for business and for the people."

Construction isn't new to the area, which now is home to Regent Park, a community of homes off U.S. 21. What's different is that Coulston is beginning to remove and renovate many of the landmarks that once symbolized the Christian resort.

Grading also is under way on a second road that will link Regent Park with Springfield Parkway by way of the soon-to-be-built Nation Ford High School, said Eric Greenway, York County planning director. Coulston is sharing the cost for that road with Clear Springs Development Co. and the Fort Mill school district.

Dealing with growth

The new roads -- built to county and state standards -- will keep traffic moving through an area that is seeing incredible growth and includes the adjacent Springfield development, a 650-home community by Crescent Resources. The plan is to turn over the roads to the county.

The additional roads also will help prolong the life of existing thoroughfares nearing capacity and help cut down on emissions from cars idling at stop lights, Greenway said.

"Heritage is going to become not only a destination, but it's going to serve a big purpose in connecting York County to the retail area in Pineville," said Greenway. "There will be better traffic distribution."

But road clearing is just part of the work going on at the site of the former resort founded by the Bakkers of the now defunct-PTL.

Coulston's master plan, approved by York County early this year, calls for more than 600 single-family homes in York County and another 670 single-family homes in Lancaster and Mecklenburg counties, multi-family units, commercial areas for restaurants and shopping, some light industrial and about 70 acres for his daughter's equestrian center and estate homes, including his own one day.

He's also creating a public parking lot for the Nation Ford Greenway, a 31-mile nature trail that snakes through York and Mecklenburg counties.

Work includes:

• Demolition of the old water park and other dilapidated buildings. Coulston expects the five-and-a-half story "Killer Typhoon" water slide to be removed soon.

• Grading on two of four subdivisions in York County, with the permitting process ongoing for subdivisions in the other two counties.

• Construction of Crown Plaza, two commercial buildings with a combined 45,000 square feet off U.S. 21 at the Regent Park entrance. Half the space already is leased to tenants, including three to four eating places, a hair salon and dry cleaners, Coulston said.

60 acres for ministries

Sixty acres once occupied by Bakker's studio, an assembly hall and an amphitheater are dedicated for use by five or six international ministries Coulston hopes to attract.

The roof is being replaced at the studio, which will be used by Coulston's wife for her Flames of Fire ministry. Next door at the assembly hall, the roof has been removed and the building is to be renovated.

The amphitheater is leased through the end of the year to NarroWay Productions, a Christian theater company. But Coulston dreams of one day turning it over to the youth.

"It could be a place where they can come with their music and express their faith," he said.

Opening the place to ministries is important to Coulston, who has built orphanages over the past 10 years in Russia and Central America.

"We want to bring people from all around the world," he said. "I want everybody to feel at home and feel a part of it."

Already, MorningStar Fellowship Church has purchased 52 acres and is holding services in the lobby of the old hotel. Recently, Cause USA, a youth ministry, moved offices to the MorningStar site and is renovating cabins, said Gary Bass, York County building official.

MorningStar, formerly located in Pineville, moved its School of Ministry to the site early this year and hopes to open a school for kindergartners through grade 12 in the fall, said Rick Joyner, MorningStar founder. The plan is to move church services to the 1,800-seat conference center in January.

Coulston, who attends MorningStar services, would like to see ministries everywhere, he said.

A developer most of his life, Coulston was general manager for Malaysian United Industries, which bought the 2,200-acre retreat in the late 1980s from bankruptcy court after Bakker's ministry fell apart.

Coulston developed the plan for the property during the six or seven years he worked for the Malaysians. After doing mission work for two years in Russia, he came back to find he "still had a heart for it."

Reaction from neighbors has been positive, he said, adding someone told him he needed to redeem the property for God. He told them he'd use the profits to build orphanages around the world, he said.

Coulston hopes to have the redevelopment complete in five years, he said.

"We're going to take our time to do it right," he said. "We want to keep it growing and growing."

Sula Pettibon • 329-4033

spettibon@heraldonline.com

Heritage USA history
In 1977, Jim and Tammy Bakker founded the 2,200-acre Heritage USA Christian complex for his Praise the Lord ministry. Heritage USA, located off U.S. 21 Business in Fort Mill Township, included a 500-room hotel, a water park, a 21-story tower, campground, amphitheater and tennis courts.

The original development was paid for by donations to PTL, which promised its partners free nights at Heritage for their lifetime. The ministry fell apart in the 1980s after a sex and money scandal.

After the downfall, the property passed through several owners and re-opened in 1992, when Malaysian United Industries bought it for $42.6 million. After the Malaysian company's unsuccessful attempts to transform the development into a resort, it closed again in 1997.

This year, Fort Mill developer Earl Coulston completed purchasing almost 1,000 acres in the area, which is now called Regent Park. He plans to build 600 houses in York County and add commercial uses and international ministries.

He sold 52 acres to MorningStar Fellowship Church, which conducts services and conferences at the former Grand Hotel.

[Lady Star]

Yes Gary I know that you did not make the Article up it is not fresh news to me and a lot of other Folks here on the property. It will however, make interesting reading for the Folks who don't already know about it. I see the project moving right along on a daily basis.

Does it sound like you have read this somewhere before???? If so just go back and read many of MY ( Ladystar ) postings. Actually I am pleased you posted the article, It truly validates all the things I have been saying relative to what is actually going on here on this Property.

As you probably already know or should know, The News Media tends to enhance the story in which ever direction they choose to go with it in this case I see some things that I personally know are a little over stated but the basic jest of the article is right on.

[FormerPTLer]

Well, I thought if it was in the media it had to be TRUE. You mean you don't AGREE with the media either. Is there ANYONE besides YOURSELF that has a shred of TRUTH in them or are you the only one?

[Lady Star]

No Reading Comprehension skills! No Reading Comprehension skills, NONE, NONE POSITIVLY NONE!

You Poor Boy! you just keep digging that hole for yourself!
It's no small wonder that you had to change professions.

After all the time you spent at HUSA as a Wanna be and finally made it to a real Police Department......And you want me to believe that you left on your own valation????? Give Me A Break!!!!!!

Would you like for me to publish your real Identity?????????

You Keep asking about mine.

You are simply Pitiful Boy. If you don't lay off the sauce it will do you in for sure.

[RolH]

I just joined TheIdeaWeb "Revival of Heritage USA" discussion group this a.m. and am also a member of several other PTL-related groups. After having read the various banterings, kibitzing and conflicts that have been occurring between so called Christian members of Christ's fold à propos de PTL Heritage, I am simply appalled by such frivolous tripe and bickering that has been going on in this site!

Have ya'll forgotten the initial guideline rules when you signed up for this group? And without having the slightest intent of plagiarizing any of that text it very clearly
states that. . .'you agreed that you will not use this service to KNOWINGLY post or transmit any material which is false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harmful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually-oriented, threatening, invasive, illegal, dangerous activity, or information that infringes upon others, or otherwise violates any law. ...in other words BE NICE!'

Ya know. . .thus far I am totally stunned that a few who purport to be Christian souls and followers of His Word have the gall to display their own childlishness by arguing betwixt and between one another! It almost makes me want to rescind and cancel my membership to this group before I ever really get 'into' it very deeply!

Who among us really gives a hairy rat's a-- (if you will excuse my rather indiscrete and blatant terminology in using that phrase)... in finding out the 'undisclosed or secretive identities' of various people who have emerged out of the PAST days of the former PTL/Heritage empire heydays as 'informed icons' of future goings-on there and past history! I for one do not care hearing about any of the Bakker's opulence, past indiscretions and any innuendoes pertaining to them. They quite simply, along with so many others in the initial fold screwed up by the weaknesses, lack of common sense judgments, etc. that unfortunately ALL of us face during our lifetimes as sinful human creatures and that eventually lead to sadness and remorse for having committed such infractions. That scenario in history is over and done with, a closed book and has as everyone can clearly discern, led to divorce, total and utter grief, scorn and remorse to those involved, crushed the initial efforts of the PTL Heritage concept and is now a thing of the past. So let's forget what could have been done by those who were indiscrete and move on to what is being done currently to revive what is left of that era. . . shall we?!

I have had some very brief email encounters with Lady Star some time ago until I was advised by so many others to sever, cease and desist from communicating with this lady since she appears to be very negative, combative, indifferent to the whole new scheme and frame of reference that this recent restoration and renovation of PTL and Regents Park has now taken. So, LS, I unfortunately have classified you as a troublemaker and rabble rouser person who to me does not appear to be a beneficial individual as an asset to Rick Joyner's fold.

My comments on that score are in no way intended to incite anger or any grief toward anyone but that's the way I have assessed the entire saga and I do with all Christian humility ask God for forgiveness for having voiced my thoughts about this on a blog group that I have just joined today. I know these comments will most certainly incite some ill feelings, so I'll apologize in advance, but. . .
tough!

RH

[Lady Star]

Go crawl back under YOUR rock and in the words of Archie Bunker " STIFEL YOURSELF."

[FormerPTLer]

Wow! I'm with you brother. I apologize to you and all for my part in this stupid exchange. I really wasn't thinking about the impact I was having on others. Sorry. I will follow rules from this point forward.

[Lady Star]

Both of you need to " STIFEL YOURSELF " !!!!!!