[SM1961]

CJ,
Tell Mark and Wanda that Brad Bacon said hello.
A Nehemiah type of movement already exists at HIM.(Morningstar's new name for the Grand and surrounding property).
I would suggest that you go to eaglestar.org and check out all the info on HIM.
SM

[Lady Star]

Well, Well! I do hope we don't have another " wanna-be here! I had pretty much concluded that since the un-used portion of the former HeritageUSA/ PTL property is now well on it's way to being covered up with residential properties and Subdivisions, and with a couple of different Ministries in the process of getting rooted and or Established, it kinda sounds to me as if tho C J just may be a " DAY LATE AND A DOLLAR SHORT "

As far as your Statement C J, pertaining to Wanda saying she feels " embarassed " because of her contribution to the "Coffee Table Book....I personally feel that she should be embarassed to have made such a statement, considering that the Book most certainly is indicative of the Hand of God being evident in the establishing of such a place and I feel most assuredly that SHE as well as a magnitude of OTHERS was well rewarded financially and should be extremely appreciative of the fact that she had the opportunity to have been there and got paid to serve in the capacity which she did, I too have suffered hurt and much pain, but with God's help I have made it through and have never been guilty of " BAD MOUTHING " Jim and Tammy Bakker and the People who helped in establishing the place, SHAME on all the many who have!!

It was not so much of what THEY were REPORTED to have done by all the LYING MEDIA and.....DISGRUNTLED EMPLOYEES ( who Jim required to perform their duities up to a high standard ) but those are the ones who we hear the loudest complaints from, plus.....a whole lot of Jealous hearted Preachers, SHAME, SHAME ON THEM ALL!!

I personally find great comfort in knowing that....as sure as there is an Almighty and All Knowing God, He will judge each one accordingly to their Contributions in the situation be they positive OR negative, His eyes saw every move, His ears have hear every word spoken, ( GOOD or BAD ) and Folks I believe it's time we all did a lot of SOUL-SEARCHING as the time is most certainly taking us closer and closer with each passing day to the soon return of Jesus Christ.

C J, I am extremely concerned as to Just What in the world you will do with ALL of the Million dollar homes which are ALREADY covering the place, not even to mention the ones which are about to be built....Once again " A DAY LATE AND A DOLLAR SHORT " and can you honestly believe that God has EVER been LATE or SHORT on ANYTHING???? NOT THIS OLE GAL!!!

[cjpowers]

I am deeply sorry that you were hurt. I am also sorry that Wanda and others were hurt. I would like to see healing take place - healing for the supporters who were betrayed and healing for the workers who were betrayed.

Today I learned that eaglestar.org has an H.I.M. ministry already working on redeeming the hotel. It seems to me that this act can be a symbolic move toward healing. However, what really counts now are the hearts of people who have been hurt as deeply as you.

Concerning being too late, God has ordered my steps concerning heritage USA over the last four days. I do not have any expectations except for that of healing for those who were hurt. I know that God is big enough to take away the hurt, pain and any bitterness from all involved. And, for all I know He could have brought me to this sight so I would know to pray for the hurt you endured.

Our God is a big God and I'm convinced restoring you and the others who were hurt is at the top of His priorities. I have no plans myself, just a handful of bits and pieces that got me to this sight. I don't know the future, but i do know God wants to heal everyone who was touched by Heritage USA.

May God bless you today.

CJ

[DonHardister87]

CJ, after you tell Mark and Wanda that Brad said "Hey", please give them both my regards. I love them. They are both terrific folks who I totally looked up during my association with them. How I wish Jim had followed Wanda's advice more often. I think he would agree. I understand her feelings completely. I am even more embarrassed when folks choose to attack you for trying to follow what you think God is saying to you. I refuse to receive correction from anyone who refuses to even identify themselves. Course, I guess God knows who they are and that's all that matters. I've been criticized by experts and it's never slowed me down from pursuing a living relationship with God.

[Lady Star]

Hey Don;

The Whole thing sounds much like a reincarnation of " Third Day Revival or Revolution " or what ever Keith called himself!

How many times have I stated that it's not important who I am that God knows who I am and other people just worry about who I am and just what I may REALLY know about THEM!!

[SM1961]

CJ...If you have read much here you will know that LS occasionally forgets to take her meds.
We love her anyway. Please do not confuse her with someone like Wanda. Wanda was there and experienced the trama we all did and now has experienced an awesome God that heals ALL wounds.
As far as we ALL can see LS was never involved with PTL.

God is doing a new thing and and it sounds like He has spoken to you.
Morningstar's heart is in the right place and the direction is different than Jim & Tammy's and that is all right. God does what He wants too.
My personal e-mail is bbacon@wscf.com if you want to know more.
SM

[DonHardister87]

Is there anyone out there that really cares who this person that goes by LS is?????????????................................... ..Come on, step forward........................................... .................I didn't think so. From now on I will refer to LS as "the one we don't speak of".

[cjpowers]

Don and Brad, thank you very much for your kindness and encouragement to take another step forward. While I don't know who Lady Star is, I'm confident God wants us to love her and bring her along this journey of redemption as well. I think it would be prudent for us to understand that sometimes those who have been greatly hurt, tend to hurt others without realizing it. We want everyone to be healed through this process.

Lady Star, it is alright with me that you keep your animiniety for now. I understand that when someone gets hurt they tend not to trust others as quickly as some can do. I can accept you right where you are at today and I will pray that God starts your healing process.

God can do more than all of us combined and He always starts with our hearts. I will be adding each of you to my prayer list. I will also continue to seek God to understand what He wants me to do next.

CJ

[Lady Star]

Brad;

So sorry that you can NOT see very far, perhaps your glasses need changing had your eyes checked lately??

As to the subject of drugs or Meds....Are you SURE that you want to go there?

By the way Brad thanks for reiterating the point which I have been try so hard to get across all along about Morningstar/HIM NOT BEING a reincarnation of PTL/Heritage USA and likewise neither is Sabrina Coulston's Ministry.


Don;

You are seemingly more perturbed than anyone else as to my identity otherwise YOU wouldn't be bringing it up as often as you do, but don't worry I have my beans in a very well BALANCED POT, I haven't SPILLED any yet and MOST LIKELY won't!!

[Lady Star]

C J;

I said that I was hurt and suffered pain because of the loss of the PTL Ministry that is exactly what I meant.

I never once said or implied that I felt betrayed.
The betrayed ones were the Bakkers and others in the Ministry and the sad part of it is the betrayl was perpetrated and/or abetted by some of the people closest to them.

Jim Bakker made some mistakes so did King David but he didn't have his Chief of Security killed off like David did it was sort of the other way around but under an entirely different set of circumstances.

As far as the subject of MY Redemption is concerned, My Dear THAT happened many, many years ago when Christ died on the Cross for both you and me. Too many people use that word far too loosely as if tho they were speaking of S&H Green stamps my saving stamps were red ( and not Holden's Red stamps ) but....The Blood Of Christ!!

[SM1961]

CJ....reply sent...check your mail.
SM

[DonHardister87]

Some of your comments cross the line. I'm really could care less if you reveil your ID or not. Any 2nd grader can track an IP address now days. You just need to rain in some of your comments a little bit. You were not part of the circle that Brad and I lived in. Just a statement. Not a judgement. Doesn't make us special by any means. All that you think you know is hear say. I consider some of your comments as harrassment. Particularly when you make references to people being killed. Not cool. And I will not tolerate it. If you want to keep your ID unknown from the few people that can't track IP addresses it's okay with me. If you want to berate others I can put up with that too. But I will not for one second put up with references to having people killed. It is no secret that Jim and I had some major differences that we aired publicly. I wish we hadn't. He wishes we hadn't. But we did. We have since settled our differences privately. The way things are supposed to be handled. I would suggest that you stop holding yourself out to be an insider with firsthand knowledge. And making statements that people should be killed. How dare you.

[Lady Star]

Ok Sir;

Listen up...I have NEVER once claimed to have been an Insider and moved in your Circle otherwise I'd probably be dizzy too.

Speaking about second graders, any one of them could have better understood what my comment regarding King David referred to than YOU did, I strongly resent YOUR claiming I suggested that anyone should be " KILLED " most of all YOU, I always did sorta like you even IF you DID run around in circles.

Speaking of " Harassment " apparently you and the OTHER circle runner got THAT backward also, I am the one who has been " Harassed. " I was responding to another Post Writer when you guys fired off the first volley of cheap shots and I just returned fire, any military person can tell you, " don't fire first unless you have clear aim " but if you do it anyway, all I can tell you is to keep your head down after that.

I hope you have enough discernment in this instance NOT to accuse me of threatening to actually fire a real weapon at you .

Anyhow...you do know what the cooks say about, " If it's too hot in the kitchen, " Don't you?

Many Blessings to you and...the OTHER INSIDER Also!!

KEEP SMILING EVERYONE...IT'S GOOD FOR THE SOUL!

[DonHardister87]

Your ravings only prove my point. I will add that I often need correction. My pastor will vouch for that. But I do want to remind you that I will not receive correction from "the person we don't speak of". Brad, it's an honor to be mentioned in the same sentence with you.

[Lady Star]

You BOTH should feel honored to to be mentioned in the same paragraph with each other, After all aren't you BROTHERS IN THE LORD??