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Old  05-19-05, 10:21 AM   #106
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My final post to you. Truth.
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Old  05-19-05, 10:36 AM   #107
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Re: TRUTH

My most sincere thanks to you for confirming that everything I have said is TRUE.

Don't forget to close the kitchen door on your way OUT, fortunately it swings out...not in!

Hope the next time I see you....you will be SMILING!
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Old  05-19-05, 11:50 AM   #108
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The internet is an amazing place.....


Don, the feeling is mutual my friend.
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Old  05-19-05, 12:59 PM   #109
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Brad, anytime I see your name and mine together I know I'm in good company. Thank goodness there are a few of us who know the truth. Some of these folks need to get a part time job to occupy some time gaps. Nothing worst to me than folks who hide behind hear say and hold themselves out to be experts. Laughable. Just laughable.
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Old  05-19-05, 02:06 PM   #110
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Wink Amazing, Just Amazing!!

Yes, Yes!

Isn't it just simply AMAZING that, Without one's identity even being known....they can be judged so harshly as NOT knowing what they are talking about?? I think I am going to have to work on that one very hard.

I think just perhaps...that may be due to the fact that I have long been a STRONG ADVOCATE of TRUTH, straight forward and on the level and...up front!!

In our present day Society Truth seems to be as scarse as hen's teeth and respected a whole lot less! ( smile folks it's the truth. )

So many posts have been made on this message board and others that tried to promote and influence people to believe that The much Beloved PTL/HeritageUSA was being " Restored " when all along That was NOT the case, and I continued to try and get that across to the Precious PTL loving people, Morningstar/HIM is a very well established Ministry in it's OWN right and IS in the Soul winning business, however...that's about as near as it could be to being equated with PTL, a Post member FINALLY reiterated and substantiated that fact in his post made today and I do so very much appreciate that and feel sure that God does too.

Folks I am NOT what some would have you think or believe that I am, you should be able to review the entirety of my previous Posts and decide if I am indeed what they would like to indicate that I am when by their own admission they don't even know my identity, Personally I think that speaks volumns for them. (?????????)

Please be advised that I will continue to post the TRUTH as it is and as far as The statement about PTL/Heritage USA being "RESTORED" about the only thing visiable to the naked eye is roads being cut and residential homes ( on top of homes) being built.....Come see for yourself!!!
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Old  05-19-05, 04:51 PM   #111
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The internet is an amazing place...
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Old  05-19-05, 05:47 PM   #112
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Agreed, Agreed, Agreed!!!
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Old  05-19-05, 11:36 PM   #113
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Yo, Brad

I think the internet is an amazing place for predators of all types to hide. Oprah did a show on it one time and it scared me to death. Did you know that there are those who pretend to be one thing and are actually the opposite. Crazy ain't it.
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Old  05-20-05, 07:53 AM   #114
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Wink The Miracle Of The Internet !

It has been said that " The Internet is an Amazing Thing " and I for one totally agree.

It kinda makes me wonder tho when people use it in the wrong way but it doesn't suprise me at all when they do, after all Al Gore claimed to have invented it! now you have people claiming to have been " Part " of the PTL MINISTRY when in actuality they were part of the Ministry in the same fashion that a Leech is part of a dog.

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Old  05-20-05, 10:28 AM   #115
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Like LS I have poopooed anyone claiming to think they could revive Heritage USA. I will even admit to warning MorningStar leadership about attempting to do what they are doing. Mainly because I know what goes along with that real estate out there. Some of it is not very good. But I must say I am thrilled they did not listen. I believe Rick Joyner was choosen long ago to be the guy to complete what Bakker started. I don't think we have begun to see how that ministry will fulfill that call. Heritage USA was never about the size of the property. It was about seeing people come face to face with a living God that cared about them individually. Whether on a water slide or a merry-go-round it was all about having a relationship with Him. Even though most of those items are now gone, and probably forever, I still believe God is calling those to that particular piece of land to assist in bringing folks to the realization that it is possible to have a one on one relationship with a God that loves them. And that He is not dead or asleep and can guide them in their everyday life. I encourage you on your quest. Go for it. People will always see things differently. That's what being human is about at times. Some see a small cloud and others see the abundance of rain! 1Ki 18:41 Elijah said to Ahab, "Up on your feet! Eat and drink--celebrate! Rain is on the way; I hear it coming."
1Ki 18:42 Ahab did it: got up and ate and drank. Meanwhile, Elijah climbed to the top of Carmel, bowed deeply in prayer, his face between his knees.
1Ki 18:43 Then he said to his young servant, "On your feet now! Look toward the sea." He went, looked, and reported back, "I don't see a thing." "Keep looking," said Elijah, "seven times if necessary."
1Ki 18:44 And sure enough, the seventh time he said, "Oh yes, a cloud! But very small, no bigger than someone's hand, rising out of the sea." "Quickly then, on your way. Tell Ahab, 'Saddle up and get down from the mountain before the rain stops you.'"
1Ki 18:45 Things happened fast. The sky grew black with wind-driven clouds, and then a huge cloudburst of rain, with Ahab hightailing it in his chariot for Jezreel.
1Ki 18:46 And GOD strengthened Elijah mightily. Pulling up his robe and tying it around his waist, Elijah ran in front of Ahab's chariot until they reached Jezreel.
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Old  05-20-05, 03:49 PM   #116
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Wink Concerning The last Post To C.J.

The writer hit the nail right on the head relative to Rick Joyner's Morningstar Ministries doing business as HIM on a small portion of the former Heritage USA Property.

They own 52 acres of the former 2200 acre complex of which a large portion is taken up by the Heritage Grand Hotel and the unfinished Heritage Grand Towers that is to be imploded at some later date. Additionally most of the vacant ground surface around and adjacent to the structures is paved parking lots.

The Writer IS correct in his asessment that spreading the Gospel is not contingent on acreage, water parks, Merry-go-rounds etc; I just want to make it ckear that I have NEVER suggested or EVEN implied that anyone should refrain from being a part of and/or wholeheartedly supporting Rick Joyner's effort. Anyone that does think that is grossly lacking in Reading Comprehension Skills.

I have, however made numerous posts to rebut other's implications or out and out FALSE claims that PTL or Heritage USA was IN the process of being restored to the entity or in the fashion that it once was, thereby creating false hopes for many former PTL Partners that the place closest to their heart was indeed about to be resurrected and restored to what they once knew it to be.

Sabrina Coulston, Wife of Earl Coulston, the Real Estate Developer who is developing and or acting as Agent for other developers who are developing most of the remaining property for residential use, has an established Ministry of her own and will operate the Upper Room when IT is restored. Her Ministry will also restore the former TV Studio and the Barn Auditorium for It's own use. It Will also take over and operate the Ampitheatre when Narroway Productions lease expires.

You can read about the Flames Of Fire Ministry's pending expansion by going to
www.flames-of-fire.com ( please note the dashes in the address) and click on Ministry update inside of the logo. Be Patient, the site downloads slowly if you don't have cable modem.

I hope this clears up any misgivings about my motives ( regardless of who is giving them ) Anyone who feels inspired to assist Either or Both of these Ministries should as the previous Writer said " GO FOR IT "

Just for the record...I am NOT ( as some have spectulated ) Sabrina Coulston.


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Old  05-20-05, 04:56 PM   #117
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Revival of Heritage U.S.A.

Music guy;
I know for the last two weeks I have been thinking about Heritage and I want it to be brought back to life. I can not get these park that were built for the glory of the lord out of my mind. I was wondering what I as a normal citizen can do to help. I don't have much money but I have the ambition to bring this park back to life. I never got to go there but I always wanted to. I feel as though there can be something done to bring this once glorious park and tribute to God back to being available for all christians. There needs to be a place where all christians can go pray and play together Allan 47
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Old  05-20-05, 05:54 PM   #118
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To answer the question about what you might could do to help bring Heritage USA back......why don't you just simply contact either one of the afore mentioned Ministries in the post just previous to your post and ask them, either one or both should be able to farther advise and answer your question seeing as how the " Park " is no longer in existence.

The Heritage USA which you have in mind IS gone and will or can not come back, The post just above yours which I refer to pretty well lays out the Grand Scheme of things to come at this venue.

The two Ministries mentioned each have their own individual plans and are layed out on their Web Sites.

www.flames-of-fire.com click on ministry update in the Logo

www.morningstar.org click on HIM in the left column

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Old  05-20-05, 06:43 PM   #119
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God is so cool...

This is why God's redemption and grace is being brought to that land. Most who worked there and invested their life....get this part of it.

I don't think we have begun to see how that ministry will fulfill that call. Heritage USA was never about the size of the property. It was about seeing people come face to face with a living God that cared about them individually. Whether on a water slide or a merry-go-round it was all about having a relationship with Him. Even though most of those items are now gone, and probably forever, I still believe God is calling those to that particular piece of land to assist in bringing folks to the realization that it is possible to have a one on one relationship with a God that loves them. And that He is not dead or asleep and can guide them in their everyday life.

And this is why God is speaking to people (just like before) to get involved.
Thanks Don.
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Old  05-20-05, 07:57 PM   #120
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I AGREE WE DO!!
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