[littlejohn]

I am a former employee at PTL seeking others who worked there. Esp. Former transportation dept. Folks. Waterpark, general store, "THE GRAND" mcmooses or any folks who worked there really I worked there around 1984. Gerald Gaskin , Rose, Don Burhite my memory fails to name many more.... I was a new college grad working there... now working in Charlotte would love to hear from anyone who worked there

[rythemgrl]

wow I have no idea

[HeritageLt]

Littlejohn I can help you out. Email me at HeritageLt@yahoo.com

[Rick4404]

I have always understood the general definition of plagiarism to be the deliberate taking of someone else's work, putting your name on such, and then submitting the same as your own.

I really don't think I have crossed the line here in that:

(1) The items I have re-posted into these forums have already been posted by the person or persons so involved.

(2) The items I have re-posted have clearly been identified by reference to the author, the website or publication said item came from, etc.

(3) I have been especially careful to, particularly in issues involving copyright, to properly note any copyrights and say something to the effect of: "as reported by..." etc.

That being said, I repeat my contention that I merely re-posted these items. At no time did I ever claim said items to be of my own work, either in whole or in part. Therefore, NO PLAGIARISM EXISTS at least in the legal definition.

[Lady Star]

WHEN I become The President Of The United States Of America.......I am going to pass a Law to gather up all so called Journalist and all.......wanna-be's and send them off to an Island somewhere and let them just hagel each other to death!

I am sorry to have to say I have never met one yet who COULD OR WOULD tell the truth, most of them are just a group of no-gooders and desire to tear down and destroy anything they can I deal with them in my own Profession on a daily basis therefore....I know of which I speak.

[Rick4404]

Originally Posted by Lady Star

WHEN I become The President Of The United States Of America.......I am going to pass a Law to gather up all so called Journalist and all.......wanna-be's and send them off to an Island somewhere and let them just hagel each other to death!

I am sorry to have to say I have never met one yet who COULD OR WOULD tell the truth, most of them are just a group of no-gooders and desire to tear down and destroy anything they can I deal with them in my own Profession on a daily basis therefore....I know of which I speak.

Finally something that we can at least remotely agree on. As in any profession, there are some very talented and capable people in the media who really do care about the profession and the people they serve; and on the other hand there are those whom you describe who are only in it for the money and to keep as much advertising money rolling into their news organizations as possible.

Fortunately for me, it was never for the money. What money? My highest paying job in the media was $800 a month on a small town newspaper outside of Rochester, Minnesota. As with any profession, I never reported on stories and make what I wrote flashy enough to win an award. My job was to report the news as clearly and accurately as possible. What happened to me which really gave me a distaste for the profession was the fact that in this town where I worked for the newspaper; the publisher/owner had absolutely no backbone. He was off running his job press and I was the sole reporter/photographer.

Of course in a small town absolutely everyone involved in any kind of an event wanted their news in the newspaper. As hard as I tried to cover everything, there just weren't enough hours in the day to cover it all. Thus, I had to concentrate on the bare essentials. Newsbeat stuff like city government, city council, the routine everyday stuff. Then local sports of course was big too so heavy emphasis on the local high school sports scene. So one minute I was a news reporter and next, a sports reporter. With an occasional enterprise/feature story thrown in for good measure.

But when I said my boss had no backbone -- I meant that as a generalization. For example, there were several "movers and shakers" in the town I lived in that insisted on seeing my news copy before it got printed. Of course no self-respecting journalist would agree to that. Unfortunately, my boss the casper milktoast he was, didn't stick up for me and he said I would be smart to show them my stories before they went in the paper. In other words, my boss asked me to compromise my journalistic ethics.

So, I came to realize that my stay at that newspaper would probably be very short lived under the circumstances. I had intended to give it my best, but one day my boss and his wife informed me of their decision to replace me after only about 3 1/2 months on the job. I accept that as a business decision, but more importantly, God's will.

Turns out that the timing couldn't have been more perfect. I returned home just in time as it turns out that my father who had been battling a form of cancer for 14 years took a turn for the worse and he passed away in December of that year. It was good that I could be home to help my mom through all that is associated with a family member dying etc. So I put my career on hold for my family. My brother couldn't help as he was stationed in the Air Force. He was over on assignment in Saudi Arabia and couldn't even make it home for the funeral.

I made one last attempt to get back into the media. I was offered a temporary job with one of our local radio stations where I live here in Fargo, N.D. I wound up doing spot reports from that season's high school basketball tournaments and I also helped cover the municipal election. But without any permanent jobs available, I had to find something else. Thus, the end of my short but sweet career as a reporter.

I have been in one form of sales or another in the subsequent 20 years in order to make a living.

I sure didn't mean to hogtie this thread, but I thought I owed it to Lady Star and others to explain where I was coming from. God bless you all.

[Lady Star]

Where ever you may be comning from.....this or other THREADS/BLOGS/ MESSAGE BOARDS should NOT have to suffer and bear the BLUNT of your extremely poor judgement in knowing what IS and what IS NOT appropriate to Post, I personally have tried my best to explain all that to you however.....you don't seem to grasp it, could that perhaps be because there is a bit of RETIREDATION there??

Once again......I wonder just how many Precious people who view these Blogs/threads who know that you, have NEVER, EVER set foot on these grounds, and that anytime they read a Post comning from you it is NOTHING short of Regurgitated Puke yet you try so hard to sound like you are such a know it all when it is pertaining to the FORMER PTL/HERITAGE USA and just as I keep trying to get you to understand.....YOU don't actually KNOW anything as far as KNOWING.

I just wish that all the Precious PTL Partners who would like to know, could come visit the Place that USE to be the greatest place this side of Heaven BUT, now no longer IS! I live here on the grounds and I TRUTHFULY KNOW!

Therefore....when certain ones post a thread here, you can afford to take it with a LIGHT GRAIN OF SALT!


Sincere Blessings To All

[HeritageLt]

Would you guys just please stop! Enough is enough! Anyone interested in having meaningful conversations with other Christian people can go to Jim's website and join the forums site. There is not this type of garbage going on. I for one tried to come here and just have fun and read and write about interesting facts about the old days at Heritage and PTL but I give up. You guys can have this site and just keep acting like a couple of spoiled kids. No wonder it is so hard to get people to join in. Anyone serious about having Christian like conversations please go to Jim's website and join in the forum discussions and don't forget to help support his new ministry.

[Rick4404]

Originally Posted by HeritageLt

Would you guys just please stop! Enough is enough! Anyone interested in having meaningful conversations with other Christian people can go to Jim's website and join the forums site. There is not this type of garbage going on. I for one tried to come here and just have fun and read and write about interesting facts about the old days at Heritage and PTL but I give up. You guys can have this site and just keep acting like a couple of spoiled kids. No wonder it is so hard to get people to join in. Anyone serious about having Christian like conversations please go to Jim's website and join in the forum discussions and don't forget to help support his new ministry.

I certainly don't want to keep going nose-to-nose with Lady Star, but whenever she says things that are simply not true about me, then I've got every right to defend myself.

HeritageLt your point is well taken. I have been trying to be Christ-like in these forums, but certain people who shall remain nameless, insist upon getting the last word in; meanwhile making absolutely certain that everything in these posts measures up to their facts and truthfulness check and so forth. We are all humans. We are all very capable of making mistakes, not remembering everything 100 percent etc.

Admittedly, I never did visit Heritage USA -- I would dearly have loved to. But in the three years or so that I have been involved in various forums on this subject, I have become a very quick student of what all happened down there.

No one can dispute that PTL did so much good for so many people. It's just so saddening that people must always try and dig up the negative. PTL/Heritage USA had a staff of wonderful, dedicated people like yourself. You are all to be commended and I truly believe that your rewards are awaiting you in Heaven.

God bless you.

Rick

[HeritageLt]

Does it really matter who gets the last word? Does it matter if you have actually stepped foot on Heritage property. Does it really matter if Lady Star gets it right or not? When she has attacked almost every person on this forum I don't understand why you would really care. I just expect it. I attend church at Morningstar every week but I don't live there. I see what the property looks like. I have friends who see it as a restoration of the property and others who see it as a complete failure. I love both sides. And we never get into name calling. I think it is obvious that Lady Star has been wounded by all this. Many of us have. And we all react in different ways. Besides none of this stuff really matters when stacked up against eternity. She is not going to change or apoligise. My advise is just get over it. Who takes her serious anyway? Go to the forums on Jim Bakkers site. It's warm and fuzzy.

[Lady Star]

Compared to the way it has panned out with you three or four, It has yet to be proven that what I have posted hasn't been true therefore......I would think everyone who loves TRUTH as opposed to LIES about what is happening here, " TAKES HER SERIOUS " It's the FLIBBERS & FLUBBERS that can't be taken " serious "

Good Health, Many Blessings, Peace and Joy to All of You!!!!

[Rick4404]

Originally Posted by HeritageLt

Does it really matter who gets the last word? Does it matter if you have actually stepped foot on Heritage property. Does it really matter if Lady Star gets it right or not? When she has attacked almost every person on this forum I don't understand why you would really care. I just expect it. I attend church at Morningstar every week but I don't live there. I see what the property looks like. I have friends who see it as a restoration of the property and others who see it as a complete failure. I love both sides. And we never get into name calling. I think it is obvious that Lady Star has been wounded by all this. Many of us have. And we all react in different ways. Besides none of this stuff really matters when stacked up against eternity. She is not going to change or apoligise. My advise is just get over it. Who takes her serious anyway? Go to the forums on Jim Bakkers site. It's warm and fuzzy.

Again, some very wise words from someone who worked on the front lines so to speak, and pretty much saw it all. I completely agree with everything you said, brother. I certainly don't want to make life more miserable for anyone.

To Lady Star ... I guess I just hadn't realized until now that you may have been wounded by all of this, and here I come along and I must have somehow hurt you myself. Dear sister, I assure you that is never my intention. I could not and would not deliberately hurt anyone. Would you please forgive me?

I want to hold out an olive branch here. I most definitely want to approach this in genuine Christian love. Unfortunately, it's just way too easy to get carried away by subjects like Heritage USA and PTL have become. Of course my heart goes out to Roe Messner, Jay Bakker and Tammy Sue Bakker-Chapman. Tammy Faye was a very special lady to so many people. The family is grieving the loss of their wife, mother and best friend. Tammy Faye has gone home to be with Jesus. She's singing and dancing with the angels right now.

To HeritageLt and anyone who feels offended by anything that I am responsible for ... I am truly very sorry. I must ask you to forgive me.

Have a wonderful Lord's Day in the church that you attend.

God bless you all.

Rick

[Lady Star]

You are " HOLDING OUT AN OLIVE BRANCH " to Lady Star???

I will accept ONLY and PROVIDING that you will be willing and promise to go the TRUTHFUL route as well as stopping the reposting of a previous post, wheather it's a Media article or personal post, that is so extremely rude to do that, as well as Disrespectful, can't you see and understand that??????

We will see just how long you can hold up your end of the bargain ( Olive branch ).

I promise HOWEVER......if you continue to regurgitate that which is already someone else's regurgitation, and is reported to be a present happening.....I will tell the truth to the Precious People who read this message board.

I most certainly commend the Moderator for his patience and for allowing TRUTH to be brought forward here THANK YOU SIR!

Perhaps one of these days this will come to be known as the place where the TRUTH is respected and allowed, something which can not be said for another Group Moderators however.....if there is any truth to the old saying " THE TRUTH WILL STAND WHEN THE WORLD IS ON FIRE " I do believe that I want to be standing on the TRUTH side!

Waiting to see!!!!
I Am Lady Star

[Rick4404]

Maybe there is something we can build on here. I completely agree with you about being truthful. I will most certainly try and do my part.

[Lady Star]

Reason why you shouldn't post other peoples regurgitation ( now think about this ) just as with food....once it's been ate and.....digested, it is of no farther benefit to the body and should not be regurgitated and presented again as being nutritious, therefore you are doing that in a manner of speaking by doing what you are here in these forms.

You mentioned previously about being a " STUDENT " pertaining to Heritage USA/PTL therefore you seem to have the idea that being a partaker of nothing but other's regurtitation somehow qualifies you as being an expert on the subject...Sorry....NOT TRUE! and there again I can go out and sit in my garage until Pigs fly.......that doesen't make me be an automobile !!!! and neither does studying all the Lies, misquotes, stories, and the magnitude of Illusions make you an expert by no means, I DO NOT consider my self for one second to be any kind of expert on the matter, but seeing firsthand certain things, helps you to know just who is on the short end of the stick and who is using it to be the gouger!
Just as I was doing my best to describe to you and four or five others when the huge earth moving machines began moving in on the property and building after building began to go up, you and all of them, began hollowering Heritage USA/PTL being restored it has been proven NOW that I was not promoting a lie then but guess just who was? ( The place is in Blue Eye, Mo ) not here in Fort Mill, SC.

So.....Please stop hurting more people by reposting Newspaper articles from years past, or other people's money making books.
Please stop hurting folks by doing that PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!!!