[Lady Star]

Greetings Fellow members,
I am Lady Star and I am happy to have found this Site, and I hope to be sharing and exchanging some FACTUAL Information with all of you from time to time concerning PTL/HERITAGE USA.

It is great that Someone had the foresight to set this up for the purpose of sharing thoughts and information concerning what is now THE FORMER " OUR" PTL/HERITAGE USA and I might add that it can no longer be considered " OUR " PTL/HERITAGE USA, I know it's very hard to accept that for some of us, ( MYSELF BEING INCLUDED FIRST), however...that is FACTUAL.

My true gut feeling is that, GOD being who he is, has every right to ORDAIN into existance ANY PLAN he so chooses or wills, I personally feel and believe that, PTL/HERITAGE USA was indeed GOD'S plan, I also believe he has the right to change his mind any time he chooses.
I would be the last to claim that he HAS changed his mind concerning PTL/HERITAGEUSA I don't believe any one person can HONESTLY & TRUTHFULLY claim that he/she knows what God's every move and plan is for the place.

One thing I DO know Folks and that is.....I remember very vividly when the FOUNDATIONS of those buildings were being poured....I saw this man following along the FOUNDATIONS of the buildings, he appeared to be dropping something into the freshly poured FOUNDATION and guess what...he WAS, it was coins which had the inscription that says " NO WEAPON THAT IS FORMED AGAINST THEE SHALL PROPSPER, ISAIAH:54:17 I challenge you, Folks think about....how many have laid their hands on it, so to speak, in an attempt to accomplish what they wanted for it...were they SUCCESSFUL??? absolutely not!

It is my sincere belief and opinion that, since the buildings were literally built on PRAYER and FAITH AND GOD'S PROMISES ARE YEA AND AMEN, and since GOD knew from the get go who could and would follow his vision and calling, we all know who stepped up to the plate don't we?? HOWEVER...just as we have changes in our nation's PRESIDENTS from time to time, we might expect to see changes occur from time to time.

I also believe since Satan stepped in....just as he did when he tried AND FAILED to take over HEAVEN and what happened Folks?? we all know that he was tossed out! ( Igornant Ole Slew-foot ), therefore.... I am made to wonder if, just perhaps GOD may very well have place his curse upon the place that has been defiled by Satan and his Silly Imps, Please Folks understand clearly....I DO NOT THINK OR CONSIDER JIM BAKKER TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT GROUP BY NO MEANS!! after all....under the directions and unctioning of GOD he BUILT THE PLACE didn't he??

Thanks for allowing me to share thoughts from my HEART.

Peace & Love to one & All


Lady Star

[DonHardister87]

You're right about the coins with no weapon on them. We were vacationing in Hawaii when Roe called and said he was about to pour the foundation for the Grand Hotel. I caught the next flight out and made it in time to throw the coins in the foundation and get some photos. Made it back the next evening. Seemed normal at the time but a little odd now.

[Lady Star]

Don,

I didn't quiet understand ---" seems a little odd now " it appears that the inscription on the coins is indeed doing exactly what it says " NO WEAPON FORMED-------SHALL PROSPER " I haven't seen very much prosperity occouring on the Resort/Ministry side of the tracks. wouldn't you agree that, is an accurate statement?

[DonHardister87]

Couldn't agree with you more. The odd thing was how normal it was to fly from Hawaii to Charlotte and then back. Seems odd now but never even gave it a thought back then.

[Rick4404]

I carried around one of the "No weapon formed against thee shall prosper" coin around with me for years. I remember getting it in the mail one month when I sent in my regular partnership pledge to PTL.

We have been discussing what used to be Heritage USA for quite some time now, both on the threads on this Web site and also over in a group on Yahoo called PTLHERITAGEUSA.

I wholeheartedly agree that God must be involved in any future development of the former Heritage USA site; during the discussion we've been having, some thoughts come to mind.

Of course we must not rush God. If the former Heritage USA is to be restored and reopened, it will happen in His timing and not in man's timing.

However, from a realistic standpoint, it certainly appears the window of opportunity grows narrower and narrower as every day passes.

It would seem that whomever God has chosen to purchase and redevelop the property needs to start moving on this project and move very quickly. If things stay up in the air as they have been, then the current owners will continue piece-mealing things away until there's nothing left.

I realize this is going to be an extremely tall order and to find willing people be it individuals, banks, companies, other ministries or whoever to make a financial commitment to this project is going to be quite difficult; given the very publicized history of what has gone on in the past.

It's time to get beyond the past once and for all. It's time to start focusing on the present and look towards the future. Many of the buildings on the former Heritage USA property are almost beyond repair, if not completely beyond repair, and will probably have to be razed. Those buildings which can be repaired will need a lot of work. The infrastructure will need to be updated and brought back up to code.

This is going to take a lot of time, sweat, prayer and likely several years and millions of dollars to accomplish. The restoration of what was Heritage USA is not going to happen overnight.

However, God is in the business of second chances. If it is His will that the property be restored it will be. I am convinced that He isn't through with what used to be Heritage USA yet.

It is still God's property, and placed in the hands of a reputable organization which is completely forthright, honest and truthful, what was Heritage USA can prosper once again.

[Lady Star]

Originally posted by Rick4404
I carried around one of the "No weapon formed against thee shall prosper" coin around with me for years. I remember getting it in the mail one month when I sent in my regular partnership pledge to PTL.

We have been discussing what used to be Heritage USA for quite some time now, both on the threads on this Web site and also over in a group on Yahoo called PTLHERITAGEUSA.

I wholeheartedly agree that God must be involved in any future development of the former Heritage USA site; during the discussion we've been having, some thoughts come to mind.

Of course we must not rush God. If the former Heritage USA is to be restored and reopened, it will happen in His timing and not in man's timing.

However, from a realistic standpoint, it certainly appears the window of opportunity grows narrower and narrower as every day passes.

It would seem that whomever God has chosen to purchase and redevelop the property needs to start moving on this project and move very quickly. If things stay up in the air as they have been, then the current owners will continue piece-mealing things away until there's nothing left.

I realize this is going to be an extremely tall order and to find willing people be it individuals, banks, companies, other ministries or whoever to make a financial commitment to this project is going to be quite difficult; given the very publicized history of what has gone on in the past.

It's time to get beyond the past once and for all. It's time to start focusing on the present and look towards the future. Many of the buildings on the former Heritage USA property are almost beyond repair, if not completely beyond repair, and will probably have to be razed. Those buildings which can be repaired will need a lot of work. The infrastructure will need to be updated and brought back up to code.

This is going to take a lot of time, sweat, prayer and likely several years and millions of dollars to accomplish. The restoration of what was Heritage USA is not going to happen overnight.

However, God is in the business of second chances. If it is His will that the property be restored it will be. I am convinced that He isn't through with what used to be Heritage USA yet.

It is still God's property, and placed in the hands of a reputable organization which is completely forthright, honest and truthful, what was Heritage USA can prosper once again.

[Lady Star]

Greetings Dear Fellow Members,
I must say that I am beginning to feel like part of this family, and feel that I know each of you, I have veiwed several wonderful Posts, many of whom I agree, a few whom I am not so sure about.

I would be the very last person to want to be a " KILL-JOY " or take the wind out of anyone's sail, but my sincere feeling is.... that we have a ton of wishful wanta-be's but, my Father always had a saying " TALK IS CHEAP HOWEVER, IT TAKES MONEY TO PUT THINGS INTO ACTION "

I am somewhat of the opinion that, SHOULD a buyer come in and take it over, whom ever it might be.....having seen the previous HERITAGE/PTL and the HIGH QUALITY which we all enjoyed, I am not sure too many would want to settle for anything less, that was the one major thing which Jim Bakker absoluted insisted on and that of coruse was top Quality for God's People nothing less would suffice believe me.

I have to agree with some concerning it being such a waste land, truly it is that for sure.
Therefore if any one group or Ministry can manage to do something worthwhile with it, I say " GO FOR IT " I just don't see it EVER again being what it once was, too many have tried and failed.

Keep Praying and lets keep believing God's will to be accomplished.

Sincerely

Lady Star

[JTuricik]

Dear Lady Star- What do you make of the Post on the Yahoo site about the revival of Heritage USA? Is this the beginning of something new and good? Do youthink that this is an answer to all of the prayers of the folks posting on all of these sites?- Jeff T- JT

[Lady Star]

Greetings Jeff T,

First of all Thanks for your inquiry as to MY opinion concerning some of the Posts on the Yahoo Site concerning " THE REVIVAL OF HERITAGE USA "

Well Jeff, I am afraid I can not answer that one due to the FACT that...as far as any on going signs which might be indicative of such a thing being in the process of happening, is completely nil.

The one and ONLY one thing that I attribute all the CHATTER to is, The UPPER ROOM is being restored by a group of volunteers
since it had been vandalized pretty badly, a FEW people managed to get permission from the OWNERS, to try and get it repaired using volunteers and at the volunteers expense, that is the ONLY visible sign whatsoever, of anything that is happening on the property East of the Railroad track.

A few Hopefuls got wind of that and it seems to have (In my opinion) given or stirred up a lot of false hope for a lot of wonderful people.

I would love nothing better than to see the place restored and being used for it's original use, unfortunately at this time....I just have to see it happen before I believe it.

I have been on too many roller coaster rides and I don't think I care to be taken on any more.

Sincerely,

Lady Star

[JTuricik]

LadyStar

It was nice that you answered so promptly

What do think of all of the people that log on to all of these sites (6, I think) and say that they were inspired or drawn to the sites, or drawn to the resort, and make a statement that they are going to start a renovation, or want to be part of a campaign for the restoration?

If you read throught all of the sites, I think there are 20.

If these people would all get together, I think that it could be the start of something.

Jeff T- JT

[Lady Star]

Hi Jeff:

In response to your question and comment about the 20 or so sites getting together to form one UNITED site and effort to restore Heritage USA: ON the surface that would appear to be a good and productive thing to do, However there are so many different viewpoints (as you can see from the posts) I seriously doubt that enough people who are in leadership roles (on their own sites) could or would agree on the appropriate course of action to take to accomplish such a major undertaking.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to see something like that happen but human nature being what it is, it would probly be next to impossible to accomplish it. Just consider the number of different denominations in the Church world each with their own interpitations of the Scriptures and their ideas about them even though they all have the same goals so that would probably be the same sort of situation in the endeavour to unite all the groups as you suggested, I think some would unite and some would be opposed to doing it, you understand the old saying " Big I's and Little You's " would probably come into play in a case like that, WHAT DO YOU THINK?



God Bless


Lady Star

[JTuricik]

Hello Lady Star,

In my reading of all of the sites, (I found 6 sites). I picked out about 20 people that stated emphatically that they would be willing to head up a restoration of the Heritage site. I had feelings like this too. The point I was trying to make was that
if so many people feel this way, there may be something to it.
I look at it as a pattern, or a calling maybe. I dont know. It is
interesting that somany people want this place back to its original form. Maybe it would work. The Lord and the internet
can be very powerful

[Lady Star]

Would only be likely to happen Jeff, providing the Present OWNERS ( really) wanted to divest themselves of the Property and I am not very sure that they actually do.

Nothing wrong with WISHFUL THINKING Sir, but at the present time that's what I see it being.


Sincerely


Lady Star

[thirddayrevival]

Hello,
I like what I see on this thread. People speaking out positively about the restoration of heritage usa. We are doing just that. We are currently seeking 10000 people to join initially in this grassroots effort to rebuild heritage usa. If you would like to be a aprt of this exciting adventure, then contact us at thirdayrevival@aol.com. We are working on a permanent web site to connect all of us and to give daily feed back. I look forward to hearing from all of you.
Sincerely,
Keith Smith

[Lady Star]

Do you really believe that? I just wish I could believe that it is as close to becomning reality as you do!
meanwhile
Where do I sign on the dotted line at? Just show me the dotted line, and let me borrow you pen Ha!

I have seen one after the other try to take over the reins and up to the present moment NOTHING has happened so.....Tell me where we start lining up at....Date, Place and Time and to whom do we report to, upon our arrival!

Tell us more about yourself PLEASE!