[vik756]

after months of searching i have found one picture of the entity case which doesnt prove anything it could be a camera fault as there is absolutely no documentation along with it i find it amazing that a case like this which was made into a movie could be so badly documented. If anyone knows where to get anymore info on this please let me know.

hi,my name is ronnie.i just seen the entity for the first time.i must say that it was a scary expierence.i have allways believed in the paronormal world.something has allways drawn me to it.just like the exorcsim of emily rose and amittyville movies,i very much believe this stuff is possible.if anyone has any further info.on any of these things,please let me know.

ok, i saw the movie entity the other night, i understand it is only a movie, but at the end i saw it was based on a true story. i wanted to look into it and found this site. please understand that i have never been harrassed by a spirit on the same level as the carla moran story, but i have had a fair few mishaps on this subject. i have read over most of the posts and agree with most of them. so i thought i would share my two cents.

about a year ago, i was sitting in my lounge room with my mrs at the time and a good friend of mine, just watching a movie. for some reason i looked outside and saw a figure standing on my driveway. due to the fright that i got i squeeled like a school girl. after explaining to the other two what i saw, david and i walked outside to see if there was anybody there. as he was at the top of my driveway, and i at the bottom, we started to walk towards each other looking for whoever it was i had seen, when we met in the middle, we were both struck off our feet with great force, so once again, like a school girl i shrieked. when we got inside i started to feel eally weird. i was in a cold sweat, my hands went clammy and my face as pale as a ghost ( no pun intended), i could not stop from shaking and this wasnt from fear, something else was doing it to me. only moments had passed before my mrs, stacie had something or somebody stand on her feet, i had somebody grab me on my shoulder, and david saw somebody on the driveway, there was no body else in the house bar us 3 and i know what i felt.

i live in a subarbian area, and have lived here for near 13 years, at which time all three of us heard a bell ringing in the distance, that of an old church. something i have never heard around this area before.

at this time i thought my imagination was playing on me and we were having a mass illusion, so i changed channells on the t.v to get our minds off of the subject, there was a football game on. the end of one anyway, and whilst interviewing one of the players, he started to say that there was somebody out on that field looking after there team that night, un canny and most probably coincidence.

then i had a thought in the back of my head to look at my watch, this thought cam out of now where. i walked into my room to find an old watch my step father left me many years ago, and has never worked. as i picked it up it was ticking, and unbearably hot. i took it back out into the lounge to see if i was still hallucinating or not, but it was working. i put it on the ground for a moment, and when i went to pick it up i got the shock of my life that knocked me out cold for a good ten minutes, when i came to, david and stacie were in cold hysterics and i had no idea what was going on.

turns out, all the power went out as the shock hit me(i was standing next to nothing else and it could only have been the watch that shocked me) and was flashing for a moment or two as if there were lightning out side lighting up the house. but according to the two of them, during a flash of light there was somebody standing behind me. as tall as the roof and shoulders to match, they could not see his face, but they could smell him, and they could hear him breathing.

when i came too, i jumped up as fast as i could for the last thing i could remember was getting shocked, as soon as i got up, the lights turned on and there was nobody behind me. it took hours before the two of them could influence me what had happene did actually happen. but apparently it did

there only point to this story really is to say that there are "OTHERS" out there, i am not sure how to describe them for noone is 100% what they actually are. but there are here.

if anybody has any idea what happened to me that night, please reply to this.

all i know is that the next morning, at the top of the driveway where my mothers car was, that is where both david and i first felt this force. and as we investigated in the daylight, we were both struck at the back of the car. here we found that the tyres my mother was driving on were completely down to the steel belts, and the brakes were completely shot.

i am not sure if this was a warning for me or not, but if you put it into place think about.

the watch: has never worked since i had it, finally started working again and with a new ability to knock a grown man out cold. this could mean that time was up

the church bell: could have many reasons, 1 it is a church, 2 could be a chime for the watch

getting knocked out: and so suddenly could be a warning of what could have happened to my mother.

the foot ball player: saying there was somebody out there. watching over them.

look, i have only put this conclusion together from what i think this night may have revolved around, but i have lived my entire life around spirits and there fore believe in them, and this would not be the first time they have helped me of my family.

but if any of you could help me to figure out what this night could have meant, i would kindly appreciate it.

thank you

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I Have Listen To Many Stories And I Have Always Beleive In The Back Of Mind That There Is Something Other Than Humans That Also Exist In This World Today. When I Was Small I Would Have This Enormous Feeling That Something Of Another Realm Was Always Over Me, Like I Was Always Being Watched,i,ve Also Experience Being In A Heavy Trance While I Was About To Awake From Out Of My Sleep,i Know How Stupid This Must Sound But Try To Keep An Open Mind About What I Am Trying To Explain....sometimes I Would Also Experience Having Someone Touch My Breast In My Sleep I Still Can Remember How Light The Touch Felt, Then At Other Times I Would Smell This Pleasant Aroma In The Air, Not Of Perfume But Maybe Something Out Of This World And Odor That I Have Never Smelled Before....so If Anyone Have Ever Experience What I Did An Can Tell Me What This Means I Would Be Forever Greatful....

in this web is the real case of the entity
ciao good bye

[vik756]

i have investigated spirits for a long time and i have heard of people getting shocks i read somewhere that this is because of the energy spirits use. I think unless u witness something paranormal u r bound to not believe. I know there is life after death and have had definative proof of this.

When i was doing an investigation in my home town we had contacted the spirit on the ouija board(i wouldnt advise anyone to do this unless they know what they r doing)we asked the spirit for information such as his name age when he died and the date when he died, he also told us where his gravestone was. this could not have been previous info stored in our minds because the man in question had died 30 yrs before i was even born and e1 else is younger than me.

i went to check this out at the local births deaths and marriges and it all checked out and we even went to see his grave stone.

this spirit was not a very nice person and was responsable for numerous murders while he was alive but none in the village will speak about those i managed to get proof ohf this information he gave us through old paper cuttings from the local library so it just shows that if u investigate the facts alot of the times they tie with documentation and history.

First hello to everyone who experienced such attacks and rapes and "IT rammed up my anus": You are sad, insane people and you really need some attention. Why do you need to believe in ghosts and othwer *****? Isn´t life complicated enough, don´t we have enough real problams like hunger, war and destruction of earth?

And then hello to all the sceptics like dan: Go on like this. So you may help us "logical" people to sort that crazy ghostlickers out. You know the truth: We are poor little, insignificant humans and alone we travel through space on this dirtball called earth.

And P.S.: I am not narrow minded, i am free to all ideas and when i see a scientific proof, i am convinced.
Proof goes as follows: YOU (ENTITYFRIENDS) SEND ME AN FEMALE!!! (aka Succubus) ENTITY WHO RAPES ME ALL NIGHT LONG. I CANT HAVE ENOUGH OF SEX AND SO I COULD SAVE MUCH TIME DURING THE DAY. THE SUCCUBUS HAS TO LOOK NICE WITH BIG BOOBS AND LONG TALL LEGS. AND IT SHOULD LEAVE MY TESTICLES WHERE THEY ARE. DEAL? :-)

-> Please excuse my poor english, i am from germany and thats where to send my cute little succubus-entity (Schmatz)

Originally Posted by Whatever

Why do people have such a hard time with the fact that demons, ghosts ... etc, do exist? Are you so scared of the reality of it that you shy away to put it off on some medical term.. did they not try drugs on Emily Rose only to find out that the drugs made her ability to fight off the demons worse?
If something happened to you, and you saw a figure and two men with that figure, you would say this was a medical condition? Only because there was no logical explanation for it? If you started to see ghosts would you ask for meds? Is your faith in God so shallow that you can't see whats out there? If there is a god then there must be a devil, if there is both then there must be demons, if there are demons then why aren't there ghosts? If you don't believe in God, then you are just a shallow person whose mind is so tunneled vision that there is no room for possiblities, all you people who try to discredit these allegid victoms are no better then the doctors and insurance companies that want to throw them all on medication. In my opinion all of you who find it necessary to put these people down for the experiences that have happened to them, you should all be on medication. Do Have A Nice Day. <---that is a big smiley face for all you dumb asses

We have such a hard time to "accept" the existence of ghosts etc. because it is NOT A FACT that they exist. There is absolutely no scientific proof and if you look up pages loke randi.org you will see that up to this moment no one was able to proof a supernatural phenomenon.

And no, we are not scared because it is not yet proven that such things exist and so they does not affect our lives.

Emily Rose is fiction, The real person is known as Anneliese Michel. An epileptic which took great amounts of Carbamazepin til the moment she died.
Her family was very religious. She ate nearly nothing for years and had 31 kg weigth when she died. I think that person is not thrustworthy in any way.

And there are things like psychological diseases and night terrors, sleep paralyses and so on - that in fact exist. And the human mind is a complex and bizarre organ.

I never met god and i never met ghosts & demons. Should i ever see some of these guys i won´t be able to judge if madness or another diesease got me or if they really exist. What we call reality is much too overvalued. The one and only truth does not exist. There are many things we cant prove or say they does not exist. Its the difference between knowledge and faith.

There´s good and bad in all humans. Sometimes the good wins and sometimes the dark side and thats all. Is it so hard to believe in that?

It´s typical for someone like you to become aggressive and swear at people and to claim that they are ignorant and narrow-minded. But to be honest its people like you who are intolerant, dumb, annoying and real morons.

Originally Posted by vik756

i used to investigate the paranormal i am a sceptic i arm myself with a video camera and a tape recorder and digital camera i have seen and heard thing that have been picked up on all of these instruments which cannot be explained by science
the tape recorder was lying in the middle of the floor. i sent my findings off tho a university to a department of parapsycology and they could find no evidence of any tampering of the video or the sound recording.
so in conclusion there is stuff on this earth that cannot be explained this is only one instance i have many more
for every genuine haunting i have found double un genuine that can be explained by science but everything i have witnessed is fact.
so do be to quick to dismiss what we dont understand

Congrats so the supernatural arranged that show only for you.
Come on show us the video, put it into the internet and post a link.
Oh - you don´t have any tape - thats too bad.

Amytiville look:
zerotime.com/articles/amity.htm

Emily Rose look:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anneliese_Michel

[vik756]

Originally Posted by succubusorder

Congrats so the supernatural arranged that show only for you.
Come on show us the video, put it into the internet and post a link.
Oh - you don´t have any tape - thats too bad.

actually i do have loads of tapes and other stuff that i would love 2 show u and as soon as they come back from being veryfied at cambrige university they will be posted in my web site which will be free for all to see and i will happily post the link wen the vidoes and other stuff is on the site i have copies obviously but i am waiting till they come back from the university so i can post them with the findings i myself do not readily believe in ghosts or spirits this is why i investigate such phenominon with equipment and try and find a retional scientific reason for these things but what do u say when there is no scientific reason.

i neither believe nor disbelieve mabee science hasnt evolved enough yet to find reasons for these phenominon or mabee ghosts do exist but to shut your mind off to both possibilities is the real CRAZY not the people who write in and share their experiences to those people these things are real and are very frightening if you had read my earlier posts u would realise that i discredit the carla morgan story because of the lack of evidence and bad documentation which was supposed to be caried out by trained professionals.

so succubus in short i think that mabee u should think outside the box and mabbee try and find out a bit more about the subject you so easily dismiss

they cant all be crazy


and no the supernatural did not put that little show on just for me i wish i were that special it put it on for 6 other ghost hunting teams after me and i was not alone in the investigation i had a team of people.


i have been to numerous haunted locations and not had one single thing happen but that is how it is.

i am a rational person who doesnt just go into a place and hear a bump and go wow its a ghost i look for hard solid facts and then research those facts.

isnt that what its all about trying to find the normal before the paranormal because in a lot of supposed hauntings there is a rational explination such as one investigation a woman reported ghostly footsteps in her hall and stairs we investigated it and found it to be her heating system making the floor boards creak and bang as the contracted from the heat.

[vik756]

had you read the documentation on Anneliese Michel and believe me there is plenty you would have read that the reaon that she was diagnosed as epileptic was due to the attacks she was suffering and the medication she was on and the hospitalisation did not help her condition it grew stedily worse until her death and the fact that she did not eat was because the entities controling her told her not to. There was documentation to say that the church was involved and her heavy religious beliefs were heightened because the church advised her that this would help her condition after all medical research was exhausted and still she did not get better. So what does that tell us God couldnt help her science couldnt help her at no time was she diagnosed with any mental dissorder in fact the doctors and and the church advised her to carry on with her life as normal such as sitting her exams if she was diagnosed with a mental disorder would she not have been admitted into hospital and have her medication reviewed.

There was never any cast iron scientific reason for what happened to Anneliese Michel as there is many cases where science has failed to give the answers yes the brain is a complex organ but scientists do not still know everything about or world and surrounding plannets everyday they are finding out something new so if in ten years scientists start saying we have proof that spirits are real we have the proof will all the nonbelievers suddenly believe?.

I prefer to keep an open mind because you just dont know everything about the world we live in to catagorise it into black and white and any scientist will tell you the same just because there is no proof yet doesnt mean there wont be.

vik756

Cant believe you gave away all your precious original-tapes. I would have made copies, these cambridge-guys can be very absent-minded. To what cambridge did you sent them? I know some guys in some cambridges, maybe i can investigate the progress of the analysis.

AND NOW FOR ONE LAST TIME: I am no disbeliever !!!, I DONT say that such things doesnt exist. But i havent seen either THAT they exist. I am not saying: Thats all rubbish, im saying: Show me that such phenomenons are scientifically relevant, show me a proof.
My mind is open wide, but i wont waste my time with faith and fiction, i want facts.

Up to the moment we have some hard facts we will not be able to handle this.
If these things exist, there are two possibilities:
1) They are completely "supernatural" and have no relation to the "real world" or maybe you call it "this life". Then these things cant be examined or handled in a scientific way. But in that case there is no direct interaction possible. These "entities" or ghosts or whatever wont be able to harm you, they cant interact physical.

2)There is a link to our world and if there is one its a part of it. It has physical influence and so it can be treated with scientific methods. We can watch it, we can measure it and we may have a chance to manipulate it.

At status quo its of no help to work with "subjective experience protocols". We cant separate the freaks (and here have been a bunch of those "he rammed it up my *****"-weirdos) from the people who have really experienced something, whatever it its. We cant decide if the serious reports are of a known psychological/physikal kind or somewhat else.

And yeah i ve read all the posts in this thread. You are right the c moran case is poorly documented (shame on you UCLA-buddies), but to go a bit further: Up to now i have not seen one well documented case. And thats why i am sceptic and careful.
All in all your opinion and mine are closer than we can see at first sight :-)
But sorry, some times you sound like someone who really wants to believe, who has to at any price.

In this thread some problematic "arguments" came up.
- "There is a devil, so there has to be ghosts too"
- "Its a fact that the supernatural exists"
- "So many people have seen/experienced it, it must be true"
- "true cases like amityville etc." (most of them are proven hoaxes)
- "science often failed to give the answer"
- "scientists do not still know everything about or world"
And so on, these arguments are pseudo like the "Gottesbeweis" (dont know the english word - the Proof of gods existence) or pure nonsense or empty phrases. And there are always people who try to mix it with religious contents or conspiracy theories (that "Theres a war going on"-moron) and that leads nowhere. Wow, we even had a discussion about being gay!

Its good to see people like you, who are sceptic and try to investigate such subjects. I hope you will succeed some day and may you concentrate on the essential and dont get fooled. And once again: It is possible that science discover ghosts in the future. They may also manage time travel and beaming, but up to now its speculation.

[vik756]

i think u misunderstood me succubus i do have copies of my tapes but as i said in my previous messages im not willing to post them on the net until i have the findings back from cambridge on the origionals because i dont want to post them as true phenominon if there is a scientific explanation that can be found in a lab. I find this would be irresponsable and i would be going down the same road as the amityville case and selling out for a bit of glamour that is not me if my findings have proof of life after death then great if not then i have learned something else about how ghostly phenominon can be caused and thats also important.

i always try to deal with fact and there is an increasing amount of badly documented cases on the supernatural but also there is very well documented cases too if you are willing to look for them.

if indeed the tapes and pics come back and there is a scientific reason for this i will post it on the net with the videos to show what can cause ghostly phenominon.

when i have talked about real phenominon it is when it has come back with no explanation as to why its happening but again this can be caused by two things:

1. ghostly phenominon
2. something that science hasnt found a way to test and mesure

i never take a persons word for something i find out for myself and i do it in a way that looks for every other option first then we look at the paranormal i think this is a sign of a good ghost hunter.

as for ur previous thread i dont have to believe at any cost this is not true im interested in the supernatural yes this is truebut to believe everything u read and hear is stupid i question everything for example the ammityville case partly based on a true story(the ronald defeo murders) but the supernatural stuff in that case has had no documentation to suport the fact that the house was haunted the whole haunted house thing started because ronald defeo said he heard voices telling him to kill his family he also said many different conflicting stories aswell. so this in my mind raises a few questions:

1. why did ronald defeo not have testing to rule out mental illness
2. every ghost hunting team in america would have been in the house
and their findings surely would have been published somewhere
3. if a priest had gone into the house and preformed an exorcism that was
not sanctioned by the church would this not also be documented.

And as for jay ansons accounts of the lutz stories after the defeo case he states the lutzes did not want publisity yet they sell their story to jay anson which becomes a best seller then a string of movies giving them more publisity than anything.

i have also read many accounts of the real reasons the lutzes did this.

i thin me and u might truely have more in common than it first appeared so if u would like to talk to me on msn let me know and i will give u my addy