[eyesaw1]

Swearing isn't going to help mate, and by the way, there is an "N" on the end of that word. If Carla Moran, A.K.A. (who knows), actually exists, there would have been a steady stream of weirdos and groupies beating down her door just to get a glimpse. That's what happens to people who become celebrities, for whatever reason. I have never heard of a single celebrity being on Jerry Springer, and if there had been it would no doubt have made big news. If you think that the Jerry Springer Show has anything at all to do with reality, you need to quickly turn to a channel that is at least a little closer. May I suggest the Sci-Fi channel. ;-)

[princess_in_lov]

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[eyesaw1]

Hello Princess. Thank you fdor the reply. I can only say: !!!!! ;-)

[eyesaw1]

Sorry abuot the speling. I haven't got the hanng of the edit function yet. lol ;-)

www.randi.org

go claim your money you lucky people.

post again when you've thought of a good reason not to test your beliefs.

But I dont know if this goes for others the chi guys story is similar to what I am about to say. You can feel the energy if your aware of it. I honestly think that what I felt is less of an attack as more of an experience. I am 21 home one last time prior to going back to school. A bit isolated in my old hometown, several family members I have lost in the past few years grandparents mainly.

When I go to sleep if I choose I am able to see their energy, I am only capable of doing this is very dark rooms. And not that clearly either. I originally felt the cold air , pressing all that jazz nothing violent but it was very disturbing at first. Infact i had a reaction one night where i violently pushed one away I think with energy from my body. Like pushing someone away but without physical touch.

Adding futher to this the energy that I see is corrobated with the cold spots in the room and air. I am pretty sure it's either a cousin that was supposed to be my age or random family members coming to visit to talk. Now I can't speak with these individuals in this state I can only thing. This isn't logical even I kinda pose doubt at half the information thats passed it's like talking through instant messenger you only get what information can you read. so if your speaking to someone from russia you're not going to know colloqialisms even if their capable of speaking english.

None of this has to make any sense to "logical" people because all of this isnt logical... But iam comfortable with it because I am only aware of it and communicating. I some how doubt how capable people like pyschics are with communicating with disceased but the only thing that makes any sense to me is that we are in a stage of life and possibly another stage is in the form of energy.

But for those that have these late night experiences with something that could only be another entity. My suggestion is control the situation. ask what it wants and firmly tell whatever it is you want. And as for being attacked we have energy too I myself have been attacked after insulting a "supposed" poltergiest I know I am susceptable or more susceptable than other people who knows why but long story short i fell asleep for thirty minutes in a nap and woke up strangled. That is pretty extreme, never once again had that kinda reaction and I truly believe that there are others with us even though we cannot see or hear or even feel them.

But iam interested, for the sake of communication and the ability to be aware, you may really have a negative experience with this unlike what I have experienced but a common experience I have had is one where i am in a dreamstate watching the area above my bed in the dark i can see light patterns and energy that isn't coming from anywhere just is there like static with color floating above myself. sometime's its organized into a circular area spinning like threads of spider webs shooting off in waves. As the energy gets closer to me the colder it gets generally not too cold, I suspect emotion plays a great deal into temperature. I also suspect that some feed off our life energy. Makes sense dont it we create so much energy it must go somewhere, so saying this * probably not logical but shooting it out anyway * when I breath and this entity is close i feel the cool air coming into my body. Now its not normal cold air this kind of air makes your whole body feel different, I am sure others have felt this. I think with the right entity it may be a past lover who knows. all I do know is this is where the line was drawn for me.

Also I made a connection between animal sense and my own whenever my dog is in the room sleeping she's either crying or upset right when I am persueing this experience. I dont think its natural to touch the energy either. I have and as soon as you do you will regret it I get sick the next day every time it has happened.

Now as for all of this skeptics Iam sure you're like this is full of bull ****, and to you I ask one thing just try it maybe you'll not be a skeptic after. Get lucid in a dream state force yourself up and just keep your eyes open for a about an hour without moving you'll see more than what you expect . back to the chi thing one last time. we ourselves have energy being aware of it is one thing but if your truly threatened You have the energy to defend yourself or control your environment. And for many of you who have had negative repeating experiences just ask what it wants and look for yes or no answers to me it doesnt speak i just hear the thought yes or no and if you still cannot communicate and like me and am a visual person ask it to tell you in a visual and just paint a white picture in your mind and close your eyes and keep and open mind. If it gets to be overwhelming define the ground you stand and lastly if you feel like the energy is trying to feed off of your own which I kinda believe in after the cold experiences by all means defend yourself.

last thing I dont think our visitors have as much energy as we do thats why i think they continue to comeback. hell this could all be bull **** i dont force my beliefs on anyone.

-aka

Part from my terrible grammar earlier there is something else you should hear.

groups of energy travel together in circular forms with the energy i described earlier. The communication I forgot to explain was through thought, and it was mainly what I percieved the answer to be thats why in the next sentence i said even i have doubt about the communication ability level with it. Um energy generally is the color of white never seen red and if anyone knows anything about light red is the color of light that is father away from us or just weaker in intensity ( blue is the most intense) I dont know if this means anything in this situation but maybe its that in your story he was red because he was weaker in energy maybe you did something to him or maybe by attacking your friend he was weaker. Whatever the case There isnt much logic in this besides energy producing and energy feeding.


random thought: what if the only energy we carry over into our next existance is what we produce in this one.

aka

[EntityCase2004]

I have had an entity attacking me for 2 1/2 years now. I know all about sleep paralysis, about Schizophrenia, and the like. For a period of about 1 year I had a local paranormal group working with me to rid me of this entity. The group leader told me he would stick with it till the end but they gave up. The group lead during this time lost his job, had financial difficulties, and had several different cases to work on. I believe that he was at a loss for what to do, and with no financial backing, unable to procede any further. This has been a difficult journey and I hope that one day soon it will end. In my case the attacks take place during waking hours and on 2 different occasions 2 men where physically hit by this entity. I am in the 10% range that previous posts refer to. I am not crazy and have been fighting this entity by developing a strong bond between God and myself. I am convinced this is primary. I am also convinced this is happening to a lot of other women, your Mother, Daughter, Sister and friend. We ARE TOO AFRAID AND ASHAMED TO DISCUSS IT! It is hard enough dealing with this and the added ridicule of being labeled Schizophrenia or some other mental disorder is too great. Think of the shame, the isolation, helplessness we must feel! The public's response to this problem, it must be a mental disorder, only enables this activity to continue! Those people who judge in this fashion only perpetuate this problem by allowing it to grow in porportions under the veil of secrecy! What if you are wrong? What if this is happening in epidemic proportions? More than the 10% that is documented here? Do we all not see how the world is going to hell in a hand basket? That there is a war going on, and it's not between Iraq and the United States, but between good and evil!! Lets allow women to come forward to tell what is happening to them without ridicule. Yes there will be many cases with reasonable explanations and there will be crazies out there telling their "story", so what?!! What about the rest of us for who it is REAL??!! Come see my yahoo groups, spread the word about it, in jest even if you have to, but spread the word so others like me can come out in the open.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EntityCase2003/

Let's see if there is a war raging for the souls of our women. We can't win this unless the atmosphere changes and allows others to come forward. Think about it. Your Mother, Sister, Daughter, your friend, needs your help. Thank you

[Georgia_girl]

Hi everyone,
Iam new to this board, I happened upon this site merely by accident while looking for information about the supernatural.One thing I can say is that while reading this board I have noticed that everyone has made really strong points for their cause. Do I believe for 100% sure what happened to Carla Moran is true? Iam not sure 100%, I do not know for sure what happened and what the cause or orgin of it is, however I can say that I do believe anything is possible. In life we never have to rule that out.

While some mysteries we delegate to the supernatural have been found to have scientific physiological roots such as night terrors we also have to keep in mind that other forces may be at work.
I myself had a very frightening experience , it only happened to me once not many times as Carla Moran asserts happened to her. I have talked to many a doctor and sleep scientist about this issue and most have offered me explanations that while my brain was awake and aware that I was concious my body had not yet gotten the message. I did not experience night terrors-nor have I ever , what I experienced was totally and completely different. Iam not putting this on this board for any other reason than to see if perhaps someone has experienced something similar. To be quite frank though I am acutely aware about the details I still do not understand what happened to me that morning and I have failed to receive any satisfactory answers from any camp may it be supernatural or scientific. Here is what happened to me. You can listen to the facts about both the
situation and me and see what you believe. I have been searching unsuccessfully for the last three months for accounts similar to that which I had experienced to mostly come up with sleep paralysis and night terrors as explanations however my situation does not fit the diagnosis of sleep paralysis in my opinion .I would appreciate hearing suggestions or comments from people on this board. Just so you know I take no medication of any kind other than synthroid (for thyroid problem at birth) and I take no illegal or otherwise prescription drugs . Iam 26 and in good health. I had my first child 2 years ago. This incident occured in May of this year.

Understand that Iam a person that likes to dawdle in the morning. Although I may be awake I enjoy lying in bed for a few minutes before getting up. This particular morning my mother was over watching my son so I laid in bed for longer than usual. I acutely remember speaking to her (and she has collobarated this) about what we would make my son for breakfast. This is first of all how I know i was fully concious as I had been awake for a good 20 minutes before the "incident" happened. I remember prepping myself to get my *** out of bed (Iam not a morning person) Suddenly I felt my arms pinned over my head. I could not get up , move or speak. I was terrified. Never in my life have I EVER felt fear that deeply. It seemed like the sheets ,my body or the mattress (I could not tell which ) were moving like wave motions. It happened so quickly-like maximum of 60 seconds than it was over. I have not had any sleep disorders in the past , no abuse of prescription drugs , no mental disorders .

I do not know really w3hich way to turn. Iam confused and bewildered about what hnappened to me. It has never happened again.
If anyone would like to talk to me by email; yu can email me joie_77@yahoo.com
Have a good day

just to reitterate to a poster. I know you can fight back. Its not difficult , you have more energy than non-physically living energy does, I swear they feed off our energy and life energy in general to exist. and my best suggestion is to get a pet. Its proven animals make you live longer, and I know when my dog barks when I am encountering an energy form its not just a coincidence.

Religion maybe your route of defense but thats just like saying they dont exist when I clearly can see them. The truth is your physical and spiritual energy outweighs your foe. Why do spirits contact us at night. I am convinced its because we're at our tiredest point in the day. Its a weakness, something that can be exploitable.

Another thing is your fear is probably making this thing stronger, seeing a pyschologist may not be a bad thing. You shouldn't be afraid of anything, fear is weakness.

Good luck. as always,

it isnt just women just bad spiritual energy feeding off of hate negativity loneliness depression anger resentment and mainly Fear.

good luck

I,ve had experiences with a witch figure and three shadows that tried to choke me. The witch or hag appeared to me when I lived in Hawaii as a teenager. She would float over me and try to choke me but she could never get her hands around my neck. I remember the look of frustration on her face. She tried to torment me for about a week then she finally left. We tried to adopt a dog from the pound and the dog never wanted to come in my room. Any other time he was always around me. I read books about astral projections and they Instructed me to create mental wards in my mind a imanginary barrier you create to protect yourself. Maybe this is what kept the spirt from actually harming me I don't know but maybe you should try it maybe it will work for you maybe not but its better than doing noughting and it can't hurt. I hope it works. The shadows tried to attack me when I was staying at a hotel room when I was visting a friend one tried to choke me also but couldn't get his hands around my neck either. There where three floating above me keeping me from moving. I kept strugging to say in the name of God be gone on the third atempt I got the words out, managed to turn my head to the side and the shadows were gone. I later found out two people were killed there and the guy who did it shot himself, in the hotel I was staying. I don't know if it was the same room. I have minor happenings where I live now things move, a medicine cabnet door shut right in front of me by itself, and I saw a gray figure in the hallway. I refuse to be afraid of it though and It can,t do much to me. I dont get a bad feeling from it and don't try to interact with it. I hope things get better for you good luck.

[god]

I seen the movie but one of many things that bothered me was that was didnt she get it on video? I mean she could of had the school tape her over a weeks time. the other was why didnt she goto the church for help?
I think after getting raped a few times she liked it.

[Lee188]

I think what we need to understand is, that the mind is a very powerful thing. I know we all want to believe in ghost and hauntings. But the fact is, sorry to say. There is no such thing.
At of all the UFOs reportly seenin the entire world, not one has eve landed in a town. Not one ghost or entity has ever chopped someone up or shot them. And not one person has ever been video being raped by a entity. Many many have tried. But it just doesn't happen. We as humans try to pass off things we don't understand. That looks wierd, it must be a UFO, or, I see something I can't explain. It must be a ghost.
Here is one, did you know that Natasha Ryan who played the daughter (Julie) in the Entity also stared in the movie, The Amityville Horror. Hmmmmmm, must have been something supernatural. No, it's called casting.
Now they are thing such as Sleep Paralysis and Psychokinesis. But these things are proven, fact not ghost.
Carla Moran was a woman who had many problems growing up. And in affairs she had as she grew older. And in all cases such as these, the problem was in her mind, not with ghost or entity. And as in many cases with people who have problems like this, over time she got over them.

[EntityCase2004]

First of all everyone is entitled to their opinion. Your posting basically says that it's a fact there are no ghosts, UFO's or other paranormal. Maybe your verbiage should have been it's your opinion vs. it's a fact. And what does Natasha Ryan have to do with anything? Just because she played both of those rolls means nothing.

I had posted earlier on this thread as being a victim of entity rape. I am glad to say that after almost 3 years of attacks that the entity was finally "detached" from me by a talented and spiritually gifted woman. I can say there were some facts in my case. Scientific Facts. Now did we catch it on video, no. But we did have high EVP readings on several occasions. All video cameras (2) and recording equipment failed to record despite the fact the live feed was being watched on two video monitors and showed recording was taking place. We did have dramatic temperature drop recordings. A medium was brought in at one point to make contact with the entity to find out why it was attacking me, and therefore find a way to get rid of it. During the medium’s visit while myself and her sat on my bed (which is where most of the attacks took place) she "communicated" with the entity and the temperature between me and her was 15 degrees lower than the 77 degree temperature that registered close around/behind us. I don't believe any air conditioner is capable of developing a "cold" spot of about 2 feet in diameter and right outside of the "cold" spot be 15 degrees higher. Not a natural occurrence in my opinion. After making contact with the entity the medium proceeded to tell us what it had said and she repeated verbatim words that I had heard (telpathically) from the entity but had told no one. That's when I KNEW "it" existed and everything was not a figment of my imagination. I worked with a paranormal group called Lone Star Spirits for three years and they have a pretty thick file with facts and evidence on my case. Mine was a tough case but we were finally successful. Lone Star Spirits has a web site for anyone who is interested.

In Christianity and many other religions, people believe that when they die their spirit moves on to heaven, nirvana, where ever. A major percentage of society believes that they have a spirit or soul. So if that is the case, in reality, how far of a jump is it to believe that there are ghosts? Not that far in my opinion.

Ghosts are mostly lost spirits. They choose not to move on to the light, heaven, nirvana, or where ever for different reasons. Some are afraid of being judged for their past sins and believe the spirit realm is better than going to the "hell" they learned all "bad" souls go to. Some stay in the spirit realm because they don't know they are dead, some have left behind a loved one and they want to stay nearby to watch over them. There are several reasons why the spirit/soul does not move on. An there are good spirits and bad spirits just like there are good people and bad people in real life.

Now if you are a person who believes when you are dead that you are just plain dead and there is nothingness then I can understand how one would believe there is no such thing as ghosts. But if you believe that when you die your spirit/soul leaves your body and goes somewhere then logic would tell you it's possible there are ghosts. You can't touch or see the air you breath. Just because you can't touch or see a ghost/spirit doesn't make it FACT that it doesn't exist. There is a tremendous amount of research being done in this field by both amateurs and the scientific community. EVERYONE can't be lying about ghosts and UFO's. If even ONE person is telling the truth, then they must exist. Today's technology just hasn't allowed us to be able to "touch and see" it.

I know what I experienced was not a result of my mind/brain being very powerful and therefore manipulating things to happen. I only wish it were true that this does not exist. That would have been a much better thing then the reality I had to deal with. Since being released from this entity I no longer experience any of the things I did when it was attached. Did I miraculously, poof, instantaniuosly become mentally cured? The probability would be remote.

Your opinion unfortunately actually keeps people from coming forward with their plight. They are afraid to be labeled mentally ill, joked at, someone only seeking attention, and/or considered unstable. I understand only too well how difficult it is to come out into the open when one is a victim of entity attack. I have established a yahoo group called EntityCase2003 to offer individuals who are experiencing entity attack a place to come out in the open. The veil of secrecy only perpetuates the attacks. By coming "out" it takes away some of the control/power an entity draws from its victim. I have members who have experienced the EXACT same thing as I did and it gives them some comfort in knowing SOMEONE understands. Feel free to join my group. It is membership only and fully moderated to protect other members from ridicule and judgement.

Thank you for considering my OPINION.